1 Wed May 01 2002 - 07:35:39
Name: Vic Bird
Email: VJBJAB@ccrtc.com
Homepage URL:
Comments: I live in a small rural area along with about 32 other
single family homes. Nestled right along side of us is a 1000 head HOG CAFO. It
stinks approximately 20% of the calendar year....to the point of giving us
headaches, requiring us to go inside. This is not fair to the health of the
neighbors, the reduced property values of the neighborhood and the stolen rights
to enjoy your own property! What can we do? How can we just shut them down?
2 Fri March 22 2002 - 16:12:35
Name: Wayne Cummins
Email: wcummins@farmerstel.com
Homepage URL:
Comments: Sand Mountain Concerned Citizens Quarterly meeting
Thursday March 28th 7:00 PM Henagar AL Wright's Stake House and Restaurant near
the intersection of Hwy 40 and Hwy 75. Dinner at 6:00 – 7:00 This meeting will
recape our work for this past last year. We will introduce and Vote on our new
Board of Directors. Awards will be given for leadership and a special award for
journalism granted to Rick Thomason of the Huntsville Times. This awarded is
given for opinions both public and privet, for insightful concepts above and
beyond the average Morlock poop shoveler, for enjoying the thrill of dropping a
deserving elected official on the front burner to hear them sizzle, and for the
game winning slam dunk on Alfa. Granted only to those that have exceeded all
expectations of their public duty, even in Alabama and to the writer that has
risen above the "I'll kick 'em in the mouth but do it nicely"
mentality. We hope to have some elected official as honored guest. We will
report on organization finances. There will be an outline of a project for
September. Hope you can make it!
3 Wed February 20 2002 - 20:35:28
Name: Shane Hulsey
Email: floodstage@hotmail.com
Homepage URL:
Comments: Just wanted to let you know that if there is anything I
can do for your organization I would be happy to do it. I paddle on Sand
Mountain dozens of times a year, and would love to do anything I can to improve
the water quality of the creeks on Sand Mountain. Thanks, Shane Hulsey,
Environmental Educator Cahaba River Society
4 Sun February 17 2002 - 15:57:49
Name: Wayne Cummins
Email: wcummins@farmerstel.com
Homepage URL:
Comments: A Public Hearing for HB402 (corresponding SB79) has
been scheduled for Wednesday, February 20, 2002 at 1:30 pm. This hearing will
give the public an opportunity to voice concerns, alternatives, and opposition
to the "Family Farm Preservation Act". I hope that everyone with an
opinion of this bill will be able to attend and speak. The environmental
community's voice on this issue has been reaching the public through various
media outlets; now is our chance to convince the representatives on the
committee that this bill is bad for the residents of Alabama. Make your
oppinion known. Send Alfa a message that the people of Alabama are not sheep.
We will not allow Alfa and Agri-Corporations destroy rural Alabama.
5 Mon February 04 2002 - 00:25:12
Name: Ed Scheirer
Email: ednpj@hotmail.com
Homepage URL:
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information because I know you care about your family and the children all
around you. Please take time to read it. It could change or save some lives.
You are entitled to know this information. INDOOR POLLUTION SEMINAR Create a
Safe and Healthy Home KNOW YOUR A.B.C`s. by Dr. Joyce M. Woods * Begin by
thinking of your home as a toxic waste dump. The average home today contains 62
toxic chemicals - more than a chemistry lab at the turn of the century. More
than 72,000 synthetic chemicals have been produced since WW II. Less than 2% of
all synthetic chemicals have been tested for toxicity, mutagenic and
carcinogenic effects, or birth defects. A majority of chemicals have never been
tested for long-term effects. An EPA survey concluded that indoor air was 3 to
70 times more polluted than outdoor air. Another EPA study stated that the
toxic chemicals in household cleaners are 3 times more likely to cause cancer
than outdoor air. CMHC reports that houses today are so energy efficient that
"out-gassing" of chemicals has no where to go, so it builds up inside
the home. We spend 90% of our time indoors, and 65% of that time at home. Moms,
infants and the elderly spend 90% of their time in the home. The National
Cancer Association released results of a 15-year study concluding that women
who work in the home are at a 54% higher risk of developing cancer than women
who work outside the home. Cancer rates have almost doubled since 1960. Cancer
is the Number ONE cause of death for children. There has been a 26% increase in
breast cancer since 1982. Breast cancer is the Number ONE killer of women
between the ages of 35 and 54. Primary suspects are laundry detergents,
household cleaners and pesticides. There has been a call from the U.S./
Canadian Commission to ban bleach in North America. Bleach is being linked to
the rising rates of breast cancer in women, reproductive problems in men and
learning and behavioral problems in children. Chemicals get into our body
through inhalation, ingestion and absorption. We breathe 10 to 20 thousand
liters of air per day. There are more than 3 million poisonings every year.
Household cleaners are the Number ONE cause of poisoning of children. The
biggest cause of death in home accidents with children is dishwasher detergent.
The residue left in the dishwasher's soap dispenser is enough to destroy a
child's esophagus. Since 1980, asthma has increased by 600%. The Canadian Lung
Association and Asthma Society of Canada identify common household cleaners and
cosmetics as the triggers. Ask any teacher how many children in her class are
affected by asthma and allergies. ADD/ADHD are epidemic in schools today.
Behavioral problems have long been linked to exposure to toxic chemicals and
molds. Chemical and environmental sensitivities are known to cause all types of
headaches. Labeling laws do not protect the consumer - they protect big
business. The New York Poison Control Center reports that 85% of product
warning labels were either inadequate or incorrect for identifying a poison,
and for first aid instructions.** Formaldehyde, phenol, benzene, toluene,
xylene are found in common household cleaners, cosmetics, beverages, fabrics
and cigarette smoke. These chemicals are cancer causing and toxic to the immune
system. Chemicals are attracted to, and stored in fatty tissue. The brain is a
prime target for these destructive organics because of its high fat content and
very rich blood supply. The National Institute of Occupational Safety and
Health has found more than 2500 chemicals in cosmetics that are toxic, cause
tumors, reproductive complications, biological mutations and skin and eye
irritations. Fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue syndrome, arthritis, lupus, multiple
sclerosis, circulatory disorders, Alzheimer's, Parkinson's disease, irritable
bowel syndrome, depression, and hormonal problems are diseases commonly related
to chemical exposure. Pesticides only have to include active ingredients on the
labels, even though the inert (inactive) ingredients may account for 99%, many
of which are toxic and poisons. New homes are built so airtight that it is
impossible to get a complete change of air. We should leave our windows open on
each side of our house for better cross ventilation. Did you know that if you
spray a room with Lysol that it takes almost 18 months to get it out of the
room? Did you know it contains Dioxin which can cause genetic mutation, birth
defects and cancer and, research is indicating it may be a major cause of SIDS?
The top three culprits according to Poison Control: Household cleaners, bleach
and medications. In Alberta last year accidental poisoning statistics were as
follows: Between the ages of: 0 - 4 years - 11, 515 poisonings 5 - 10 years -
1,524 11 - 19 years 1,019 , 20 and over 7,799 And these are just the ones that
were reported! In the USA the #1 cause of accidental poisoning is Dawn
Dishwashing Detergent. WHY? Because it is the #1 seller. Tide contains Lye and
is the #1 polluter. It is also the #1 seller. Deep Woods and Off have an
ingredient called DEET. DEET causes seizures in children and adults. Inert (or
inactive) ingredients in products are protected by trade secrets and are often
very dangerous. In the work place Material Safety Data Sheets (MSDS) must
accompany any product used. The work place and the outdoors are considered
"legal environments" while the air in homes is not. So regulations
for outdoor air pollution and toxins in the workplace are much more strict than
in the home. In the Federal Regulations for labeling there is actually a phrase
that says after a list of harmful ingredients "if used in personal care,
home cleaning and laundry products these do not have to be listed on label."
When we shower, the hot water aerates the chlorine and can cause headaches as
can the use of aerosols. Steam from our dryer vents is extremely toxic from the
chemicals in fabric softener sheets and residues from detergents and bleach.
There are 4700 chemicals in tobacco smoke. Formaldehyde is one of the largest
indoor pollutants in our homes. It is, however, in most store products because
it gives products a longer shelf –life. It is also used by morticians on dead
bodies. You can get a long list of products containing formaldehyde from Mayo
Clinic. Symptoms caused by formaldehyde are: Allergies, cancer, immune system
failings and asthma. A sample of the many products containing Formaldehyde
include: Detergents (When you walk down the soap aisle you can actually smell
the out-gassing of this known cancer-causing ingredient. When your clothes and
bed linens are washed in these products, some of the toxic ingredients remain,
and when they touch the moisture of your skin, they work just like a nicotine
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6 Sat January 26 2002 - 19:40:49
Name: June Weldon
Email: eweldon@farmerstel.com
Homepage URL:
Comments: The fat lady sang off key ,so we are all still bogged
down in pig poop I realy thought our problems were ending I have been waiting
so long for an end to this fiasco, I have no hope of any kind of future and
there are thousands of others that are in the same predicament I truly feel
sorry for them I dont think this is a free country any more when we are at the
mercey of the corporations and we the people are not winning our court cases,
regardless of our suffering, is this a lost cause ? I am truly pi#### off hog
warrior, I need a crying towel, there is so much evil Maybe ENRON will open
pandoras box and all these corpoations will have to give an acount of all there
dealings. Did some one mention Tyson,-- Smithfeild,--and who is next ,will they
tumble like dominos. Pray for peace. JUNE
7 Tue January 22 2002 - 02:28:14
Name: Wayne Cummins
Email: wcummins@farmerstel.com
Homepage URL:
Comments: In the new session of the Alabama Legislature Senator
Tom Butler has re-introduce the deceptively named "Family Farm Preservation
Act", Senate Bill 79. SB79 is intended not to preserve the independent family
farms whose numbers are in steep decline but to protect the corporate farming
operations which have put so many independent family farms out of business.
ALFA is behind this plot! ALFA, not Senator Butler, wrote the farm bill that
exempt corporate hog operations from legal action by those whose lives have
been diminished by its existence. The ALFA Farmers Federation points out that
family farms need protection because suburbs are expanding into traditional
agriculture communities and taking legal action to move family farms out of the
way. AFF can't seem to find any example of this in Alabama but they ask you to
take this leap of faith and except whatever they say as fact. Don't believe it!
When lawsuits raged across Alabama against corporate hog operations for their
destruction of air quality, water quality, and social stability, corporations
stopped construction of seven large-scale hog operations planed for Jackson
County alone. If SB79 becomes law Alabama can expect a surge of new large-scale
corporate hog operations and the many problems that come with them. To help
protect our rivers and streams and our way of life in Jackson and Dekalb County
write or call Senators Barron (334-242-7858) P.O. Box 65 Fyffe, AL 35971 and Senator
Preuitt (334-242-7898) P.O. Box 1063 Talladega, AL 35161. Let them know you
oppose this bill that puts corporate hog operation's rights above those of an
average citizen. This bill has 18 Senate sponsors: Butler, Zeb Little, Roberts,
Smith, Means, Denton, Holley, Mitchell, Lee, Dial, McClain, Callahan, Waggoner,
Enfinger, Dixon, Langford, Figures, and Steele. If you live in one of these
Senate districts call and ask them to reconsider. Why should Factory Hog Farms
have more rights than Alabama citizens? Wayne Cummins, President, Sand Mountain
Concerned Citizens
8 Thu January 17 2002 - 19:20:21
Name: JUNE WELDON
Email: eweldon@farmerstel.com
Homepage URL:
Comments: The fat lady sang YE HAR .Thank you everyone for your
hard work and a special thanks to Brenda Ivey
9 Thu January 17 2002 - 19:15:21
Name: JUNE WELDON
Email: ewedon@farmerstel.com
Homepage URL:
Comments: The fat lady sang YE HAR Im sure someone will write
about this To all the hard workers thank you . Praise the LORD its his world
10 Fri January 11 2002 - 22:09:22
Name: Wayne Cummins
Email: wcummins@farmerstel.com
Homepage URL:
Comments: In the new session of the Alabama Legislature Senator
Butler has re-introduce the deceptively named "Family Farm Preservation Act".
The bill is intended not to preserve the family farms whose numbers are in
steep decline but to protect the corporate farming operations which have put so
many independent family farms out of business. ALFA is behind this plot! The
ALFA Farmers Federation points out that family farms need protection because
suburbs are expanding into traditional agriculture communities and are taking
legal action to move family farming operations out of the way of this
expansion. AFF can't seem to find any example of this anywhere in Alabama but
they ask you to take this leap of faith and except whatever they say as fact.
Don't believe it! In spite of the fact that every major newspaper in Alabama
has questioned the wisdom of this bill and hundreds of readers have written
letters to editors across the state complaining of ALFA's effort to purchase
the law by way of campaign financing. The bill passed the house 89-2. The bill
died in the senate with the help of wise men who could not allow such
undermining of public trust, passing a questionable constitutional challenge,
or voting contrary to the desires of their constitutes. We can't say this for
the House. This must raise the question of how the Alabama House of
Representatives could almost unanimously vote to make this bill a law. The
answer is simple, ALFA money! How did your repesentitive vote? Wayne Cummins,
President, SMCC
11 Mon December 10 2001 - 05:10:56
Name: Terri
Email: trsprs@frontiernet.net
Homepage URL:
Comments: I came upon this site while watching a show about Sand
Mountain music. I live in southern Alabama. Not born here but my husband was
born and raised here and I've had the pleasure of living in this great state
for almost 10 yrs now. What I've seen this evening on television about the
music and the people is just so wonderful. Tonight they showed me a part of
Alabama that I wasnt aware that existed. The simplicity and the beauty. Such a
beautiful place. To see such a place destroyed my polution is so troubling to
me. When will society say ENOUGH? When will we stop? When it is all gone?
Alabama Public Television has done a wonderful job of showing the heritage of
Sand Mountain. To see that such a place still exists is wonderful. How much
longer will this place exist? I was very impressed by the people and the place.
The kind of place and people that all the world should honor. I wish you all
luck in your stuggle to preserve Sand Mountain. God Bless You.
12 Thu November 29 2001 - 23:45:04
Name: June Weldon
Email: eweldon@farmerstel.com
Homepage URL:
Comments: Dear Editor: I complained to the Dekalb County Health
Department about the infestation of flies by phone and mail more than a week
and a half ago, and I still have no response. I followed up with a letter to
the Health Department and still no response. The Health Department did come to
Ider, but did not come to any of our homes to see what we were complaining
about. They went straight to the hog CAFO'S on County Road 141 stayed just a
moment and were gone. It is pretty obvious to me and others that the Health
Department knew that the hogs were the cause of the problem. Why have we the
people not been informed of the out come? Do we need a Health Department? If
they ignore complaints it is our tax dollars that pay them and by LAW we are
entitled to an explanation. Same goes for ADEM they were informed and chose not
to respond. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE ARE THEY LAZY OR DO THEY THINK WE
DON'T COUNT? Still waiting for an answer and just in case you forgot are you
just going to fluff off the WW11 Vet and his precious wife who's house was
invaded by swarms of germ carrying flies? This is not the house fly as one
knows it. These flies are the kind that feed on DEAD flesh and poop. For
goodness sake does someone have to become ill and die before you guys do your
job? June Weldon, Ider, Al.
13 Fri November 23 2001 - 21:25:30
Name: Willard Jones
Email:
Homepage URL:
Comments: Dear Editor: Sunday, Nov. 4, I received a call to help
a friend that lives within 1/2 mile of two 4,000 head Gold Kist contracted Hog
Factories. The elderly couple, an 81 yr WWII Veteran and his wife, were
overwhelmed by 100's of large flies inside their home. We caught samples to
show the Health Dept. and ADEM. Monday I took live flies to the Health Dept. I
explained and showed him the flies. He said he would get someone to investigate
as soon as possible. I felt it was urgent, so I ask if it would be today. He
said "Oh no, it may not be this week, we will get to it as soon as we
can". ADEM did not respond. Nine of this couples neighbor's including 3
WWII Vets, also had flies. Seeing those flies all over the kitchen table,
counters, cabinets, ceilings, walls, and lights and the helpless look on my friend's
faces was not a pleasant sight. The 8,000 hogs are capable of generating waste
equal to the waste of more than 32,000 people. Thanks, I believe to the strong
lobbying and influence from ALFA, ADEM did not require a permit to construct
and operate these Factories that flush the waste into an open pond. A city
generating that much waste would be required to install a waste treatment
system. Thanks to ALFA and ADEM, the Corp Hog Factories can flush their waste
into an open pond and then spread or spray it on fields. These Hog Factories
were built in 1998 in an establised, densely populated community, where 239
families live within 2 miles. When the people complained about the odor and
insects, a Gold Kist representative told them "If you don't like it move".
I suggest you convince your Elected Officials that they owe their allegiance to
you not ALFA. Willard Jones
14 Fri November 23 2001 - 18:56:37
Name: Brenda Ivey
Email:
Homepage URL:
Comments: Dear Editor: COMPASSION FOR THE YOUNG, THE SENIOR
CITIZENS, THE INNOCENT: In our community, human beings are being abused. We
live around 8,000 finishing hogs. My son's bedroom was covered with huge
buzzing flies on the inside of his windows. According to a reporter, these are
the flies you see when looking for a dead body. A couple in our community had
just returned from a trip, and went inside their home and found it had been
invaded with these same pest. The elderly man is a retired WWII vet and I will
never forget the look on his face. He starred at the floor and although he
fought in the War in his younger years. He was not able to fight the war of
flies. His wife stood crying. This lady's physician in Georgia took one look at
the flies and told her, "Those are flies that hatch from dead
carcasses." The people who created the problems for our community have
family members who have complained about one neighbor having a few hogs and
some complained a neighbor with a few hogs were too close to their church. The
few hogs didn't stop children from playing outside whenever they wanted. They
didn't smell for two plus miles. They didn't leave a trail of pig poop up the
road when they were hauled to market. They didn't cause neighbors property
values to plummet. They didn't require tons and tons of hog waste to be spread
on land over an entire community, Spring, Summer and Fall. With a few hogs, we
don't remember Senior Citizens on the other end of a phone line crying, not
knowing how to handle the STENCH AND FLIES. Yet we are expected to keep our
mouth shut. I am no match with ALFA controlled government agencies, so my
Prayer is God have mercy on the innocent and bring justice to the guilty.
Thanks Brenda Ivey
15 Mon October 01 2001 - 02:42:16
Name: Brenda Ivey
Email:
Homepage URL:
Comments: Federal Court Ruling Declares Unpermitted Pork
Factories Illegal-- Campaign Against Smithfield Gains Momentum: New Bern, North
Carolina-- A coalition of farmers, fisherman, rural activists and environmentalists
applauded today a decision by United States District Judge Malcolm J. Howard
which upheld the right of citizens to sue industrial pork factories for
polluting. In rejecting the defendants' motions to dismiss plaintiffs'
complaints, the decision in Neuse Riverkeeper, et al. v. Smithfield Foods, Inc.
affirmed two important contentions by environmentalists and family farmers who
claim that virtually all of Smithfield's pork factories in N.C. are operating
illegally. Fist, Judge Howard held that every industrial hog facility requires
a Clean Water Act permit to operate. Virtually none of Smithfield's 1,600 hog
factories in N.C. currently has such a permit. Under the Clean Water Act, an
industrial hog facility is subject to penalties of up to $27,500 for each day
that it operates without a permit. Second, the Court held that the unpermitted
disposal of factory hog waste on sprayfields is illegal, because
"[e]xcluding parts of the waste management system... would compromise the
goals of the Clean Water Act by allowing widespread pollution by industrial
feedlots pumping waste into other areas of their farms." Virtually all of
Smithfields N.C. hog factories currently dispose of their waste on sprayfields.
The groups attorney and President of Waterkeeper Alliance, Robert F. Kennedy,
Jr., said "This is an outlaw industry which can only make money by
breaking the law. Smithfield deliberately locates its factories in rural states
where it can easily dominate state enforcement agencies. This decision puts every
pork factory in the country on notice that the Marshall has come to
Dodge."
16 Thu September 20 2001 - 14:02:05
Name: Brenda Ivey
Email:
Homepage URL:
Comments: The Appraisal Journal for July, 2001 carries a great
article by John Kilpatrick of Mundy and Associates, the leading real estate
appraisal and stigma analysis folks in the US. The article, entitled
"Concentrated Animal Feeding Operations and Proximate Property
Values" finds that property located next to a CAFO is devalued by 50% to
90%. It finds, as other studies have, that value loss is an inverse function of
distance, that newer, nicer residences lose more value, and that value loss is
a function of property use. It says that a farm that located close to a CAFO
will "lose value due to diminished productivity and comparative
marketability to other farm lands." It goes on to say that "when
appraising a property located proximate to a CAFO, the appraiser needs to
consider seven issues." 1. Type of property 2. Distance to CAFO 3.
Physical manifestations-i.e., bad air quality, insects, etc. 4.
Engineering/scientific testing of air quality 5. Impacts on property use 6.
Marketability evidence-time on market of comparable properties 7. Impact on
highest and best use.
17 Mon September 10 2001 - 17:35:07
Name: Wayne Cummins
Email: wcummins@farmestel.com
Homepage URL:
Comments: In the coming months SMCC will focus on major issues
that need to be addressed as we approach a new election year and the 2002
legislative session. One of these topics " Is traditional agriculture
threatened with extinction by urbanization?" In the coming weeks I will give
you my thoughts on this subject. In short the answer in no, much to everyone's
surprise, traditional agriculture is threatened with extinction by corporate
agriculture not urbanization! Other subjects we should focus on are: "Is the
failure of Alabama to leave the agricultural age the cause of our state economic
problems?" "Should some departments of state government which were built during
a turn of the century agricultural age be reassembled as Alabama becomes a
hi-tech manufacturing center?", "Is ALFA a political economic force that will
make efforts to hold Alabama in the economic backwaters of America to maintain
a strong hold on state government?" These are very important questions that
must be asked. Please give these questions your consideration. The comment in
the next section is a speech I recently gave before the Alabama Water Resource
Conference. I'm sorry but I can't help the gentleman looking for lollipops!
Wayne Cummins, President, SMCC
18 Mon September 10 2001 - 17:04:59
Name: Wayne Cummins
Email: wcummins@farmerstel.com
Homepage URL:
Comments: Submitted for presentation at the Alabama Water
Resources Conference, September 5, 2001, at Orange Beach, Alabama Author: Wayne
Cummins Organization: Sand Mountain Concerned Citizens, Alabama hog
Concentrated Animal Feeding Operation (CAFO) citizen watch group. Purpose: To
present a citizens' view of current Alabama CAFO regulations and Alabama
Department of Environmental Management (ADEM ) actions concerning clean water
issues. In 1994 the United States Congress identified agriculture as the number
one polluter of America's waterways . Runoff from crops and grazing lands have
been identified as major problem area especially in the mid west. Dry Waste
Management Systems have been faulted for ground water and surface water quality
degradation; however, Liquid Waste Management Systems are without question one
of the greatest threats to water quality in rural areas of Alabama and other
eastern states. Large-scale hog facilities are one of Alabama's and America's
greatest threats to clean surface and ground water. We all want agriculture to
succeed. We understand the need for farmers to consolidate. However large
corporation and their contracted facilities need to be accountable and
responsible for the impact they have on our environment, our communities and
their neighbors. It is a grave error for any state to ignore water quality,
health concerns and the well being of its citizens just because the violator is
agriculture. There is no evidence that traditional agriculture is threatened
with extinction by urbanization. This is exemplified by the fact that hundreds
of small towns in Alabama's rural countryside coexist with traditional farms
inside their city limits. Problems do occur when non-traditional farming
operations began construction and operation near any densely populated rural
areas. It is our conclusion that only sustainable agriculture methods will
support the coexistence of farming-nonfarming rural communities. This
sustainability will not allow Confined Animal Feeding Operations using Liquid
Waste Management Systems and will minimize the use of Dry Waste Systems within
the urbanized areas. In Dekalb County, Alabama aquifers have been damaged,
streams polluted and human drinking water sources compromised by hog Confined
Animal Feeding Operations (CAFOs). The Boy Scouts of America has restricted
swimming in most Alabama camps built on natural waters due to pollution of
those waters. One of these camps in North Alabama restricted guests from
swimming due to contamination by a hog CAFO upstream of the camp. ADEM has
implemented regulations for CAFOs that meet or exceed federal standards.
However, Alabama's CAFO regulations will not protect our waterways and ground
water if the number of hog CAFOs in Alabama increase dramatically. ADEM's
description of Alabama CAFO regulation guidelines are by their own admission
minimum qualifications . North Carolina's regulations and industry agreements
exceed federal and most Alabama's CAFO regulation standards, but that has not
prevented pollution of the streams of North Carolina before or after Hurricane
Floyd. All environmental agencies input to the development of Alabama CAFO
regulations was rejected by ADEM. The approach to CAFO regulation guideline development,
both at state and federal level, is one of risk assessment. ADEM's working
group and stakeholders for regulation development are composed primarily of
organizations and state agencies that have risk of industry profits as their
highest priority. Thus, guidelines reflect construction methods that minimize
costs. For example, there is no requirement for ground water monitoring wells
for early warning of ground water contamination near football-field size
cesspools, few restrictions for construction in a one hundred year flood plain,
and no requirements to impose corporate integrator liability for environmental
impacts. Setbacks from streams should be increased especially where sloping
terrain imposes greater risk of runoff. Impermeable liners should be required
for waste holding ponds in locations where karst features such as sinkholes and
cavernous regions are noted by Alabama Department of Geologic Survey . Also,
such liners should be required in areas where soil type has little resistance
to surface-subsurface hydraulic connection. ADEM does not require public
notification of CAFO construction for localities affected. This should be
corrected. ADEM says they can move quickly on case-by-case bases to impose more
stringent regulation. Of course this would be after damage to streams or
aquifers has been done. This spring ADEM fined a Dekalb County hog CAFO for
mismanagement of spray fields that resulted in pollution of a nearby stream.
The State of South Carolina has outlawed spray fields. Of the 327 CAFOs
identified in Alabama, ten percent are hog CAFOs. This ten percent represents
less than 1/100 of total receipts for livestock and poultry in the State of
Alabama . Yet the problems created by hog CAFOs can easily demand more of
ADEM's resources than all other CAFO oversight. As corporate agriculture
methods require more taxpayer funds and resources to insure safe food
production and environmental protection, corporate liabilities should be
imposed by legislative action if necessary. One hog CAFO has the potential for
tremendous damage to the environment and the health and well-being of near by
residents with a single event occurence. All major environmental organizations
and many citizen groups object to the damage that has been done and the
potential damage that can be done by hog CAFOs. There is no active organized
effort by any environmental organization or citizen group in the State of
Alabama to restrain poultry CAFOs. ADEM has, as of this year, become more
responsive in the oversight of existing hog operations. For example, ADEM is
following up on "citizen reporting" of regulatory violations. Progress is being
made, but the risk assessment employed should be more sensitive to the
protection of the environment and not weighted to profits of the industry. The
concept of self regulation and self reporting of violations has proven time
after time to be a failed concept. Regulation and oversight of Liquid Waste
Management Systems both for hog farming and other agriculture endeavors will
require more citizen involvement as ADEM's budget limits the agency's ability
to inspect farming operations. Citizen reporting should be given high priority
by the department as citizen watch groups become proficient in determining
violations and failure of CAFOs to adhere to expected ADEM standards. A CAFO
and water quality "violation hot line" should be developed within the agency
and posted on ADEM's web site to include the responsible division or section
within the agency, phone numbers, email address, and fax number. We also urge
the governor to increase funding for the ADEM to perform needed tasked in all
areas of water quality. Conclusion: As human demand for clean water increases,
CAFO regulations must impose more stringent rules for surface and ground water
protection. Citizen watch groups should become as effective in the area of
CAFOs as they have been in monitoring the overall water quality of streams and
lakes. Liquid Waste Management Systems are, and will continue to be, a major
threat to human drinking water supplies and recreational needs in Alabama.
19 Fri August 31 2001 - 17:20:46
Name: Ken Hale
Email: hale_ken@email.msn.com
Homepage URL: none
Comments: Can you supply me with the address and telephone number
of a company in or near Bryant that manufactures lollipops? Thank you. Ken
20 Fri August 31 2001 - 17:20:11
Name: Ken Hale
Email: hale_ken@email.msn.com
Homepage URL: none
Comments: Can you supply me with the address and telephone number
of a company in or near Bryant that manufactures lollipops? Thank you. Ken
21 Sat August 04 2001 - 15:56:26
Name: Brenda Ivey
Email: nchandler@farmerstel.com
Homepage URL:
Comments: Dear Editor letter recently published in the Dekalb
Advertiser to answer Dr. Johnson's question. Facts Wrong On Hog Farms Letter: I
read the article Dr. Johnson wrote in regard to the hog farms with great
interest. One fact he got wrong. There are two facilities, each of which can
grow 4,000 finishing hogs which would be a total of 8,000 hogs in close
proximity of each other. Also, just south of Ider is another large operation.
Sometimes the odors overlap. I, too have puzzled and wondered over the question
he asked, "How can the lives of so many years be ruined by the waste of
one fimily's smelly hogs?" I have concluded that greed has seared their
conscience. Remember the love of money is the root of all evil. The second
commandment that Jesus gave was, "Thou shalt love thy neighbor as
thyself," Surely they know how many people are suffering because of their
actions. My conclusion is that they do not care. I believe that someday they
will have to pay for all the misery they are causing. Whether in this life or
the life to come is not mine to judge. Another sad thing about this whole mess
is the fact that these large operations are causing so many small farmers to
have to go out of business. On small farms a few hogs, 50 to 200 brought in
just enough cash to keep them operating. They fed their corn to these hogs, let
them clean up the fields after harvesting, have room to move about and were
then taken to market. There was not a great deal of pollution to deal with and
everyone was happy. Now the pollution is unbearable. The small farmers can't
compete, people are prisoners in their own homes. Flies, gases, and all kinds
of pollution is being released in our soil, water and air. Every large
concentrated animal farming operation is causing 20 to 30 small farmers to lose
their means (of) livelihood somewhere in the U.S. If you love the farmer, I beg
you to do all within your power to stop the growth of these "factory
farms" that are invading this great land of ours. My salute to you true
farmers and all that you have done to make our country great. We love you.
Delorrice Morris Ider, Al.
22 Fri August 03 2001 - 15:41:42
Name: Ryan Hawkins
Email: ryandanyale@yahoo.com
Homepage URL:
Comments: I am a recent anthropology graduate from the University
of Tennessee at Chattanooga. I have live on Sand Mountain my whole life in the
areas of Dutton and Pisgah. I was recently informed that there is an ongoing
project which focuses on the Sand Mountain. The project is being conducted by a
southern Appalachian studies group. If you or anyone you know has any
information or if you would like to contact me to help you in any way, please
feel free to do so. Thank you. I would also like to thank you for taking an
active stance in the protection of your environment. I know there is a sludge
problem on Sand Mountain, however, I am also concerned with the futures of the
local farmers. After all, my forefathers have always relied on farm animals to
feed their families.
23 Fri July 27 2001 - 16:19:03
Name: june weldon
Email: eweldon@farmerstel
Homepage URL:
Comments: Hi from pig poop city ,what a shame it used to be Ider
AL but the pig stench has taken over, people now joke about our dilemma but to
us its all to real Its the same old situation, Stench ,flies, trucks
mosquitoes,pig poop ,pig urine, angry people , sick people, people prisoners in
thier homes, kids confined to thier homes , no BBQs no visitors, no fun , no
coffee on the porch, no life at all, and the keepers of the people are all
kicked back counting thier money eating hog and kisssing the fat behind of a
certain insurance company Talk about a third world country thats what the USA
is turning into just start looking how far back this nation is going maybe the
corporations are moving forward stepping on the little man as they go think Im
kidding look at the GAS situation the Public did not buy that one, also the
power outs ,got cought did they not ,anyway when are these pig corporations
going to be taken down a peg or two and be more responsable toward the welfare
of man instead of the $$$$$$$$$$$$$ also crulty to animals, I am sick of all
the excuses that nothing can be done to take this nightmare away from us and
thousands of others throughout the land ,were are the laws that should protect
us from this nightmare and with so many lawsuits and protests why does the
government not step in they are fast enough to critzise other countrys as to
inhumane treatment to thier people ,WHAT ABOUT US ITS A DARN SHAME NOBODY CARES
AND ALL THE MEN AND WOMEN THAT FOUGHT FOR THE FREDOM OF THE USA AND OTHER
COUNTRYS HAVE TO SIT BACK AND TAKE THIS SH## WHEN ARE YOU ALL GOING TO KICK IN
AND SAY EOUGH IS ENOUGH WE WANT OUR RIGHTS BACK WE WANT FRESH AIR CLEAN WATER
AND OUR FREDOM TO GO AND COME AS WE PLEASE AND NOT BE UNDER THE DICTATORSHIP OF
THE HOG FARMERS AND THEIR STINKNG FILTHY HOGS SAY A PRAYER. JUNE.
24 Sat July 14 2001 - 02:43:53
Name: Brenda Ivey
Email: nchandler@farmerstel.com
Homepage URL:
Comments: I would like to post an article that ran in the Dekalb
Advertiser newspaper this week. I don't know the gentleman who wrote the
article, but I appreciate his intelligence: Remembering "smell the
bacon!" I can't seem to get out of my mind an editorial that appeared in
your newspaper about a year ago that was written by a lady from Oneonta. In her
editorial, she admonished the poor people in Ider to "smell the
bacon!" She was referring to the hog farm that was built in the middle of
a community where many families have lived for 40-50-60-70 plus years. I no
longer live in Ider but have many relatives living in the area and I visit them
several times a year. However, after living in Ider as a young man, I remeber
sitting on the front porch and swinging, having a family reunion or picnic in
the back yard, cutting a watermelon just picked from the patch, going to bed at
night with the windows open to enjoy the cool summer breeze, and many other
things that can no longer be enjoyed. The people in Ider are now prisioners
inside their own homes. Why? Because the people in the community must daily
smell the urine and fecal waste of 4,000 smelly hogs! Yes, lady from Oneonta,
the community prays for the day when they can once again "smell the
bacon" and return to enjoying life the way it was before the unhealthy hog
farm was built in their backyards. Personally, I would like to ask one
question! How can the lives of so many families who have lived in this
community for so many years be ruined by the waste of one family's smelly hogs?
Would someone please answer this question. I anxiously await an answer. By: Dr.
Melvin Johnson Orlando, Florida
25 Sun July 08 2001 - 04:19:54
Name: Wayne Cummins
Email: wcummins@hiwaay.net
Homepage URL:
Comments: In response to Steve Ford's article "Unfounded fears
have no place in hog-farm debate" published in the Chattanooga Times Free Press
on June 24. Mr. Ford has fail to convince this reader there is no bases for the
environmentalist position on the social and environmental disadvantages of hog
CAFO's. Mr. Ford has used half-truths, misdirection, and personal opinion to
build his view of the truth. Perhaps the environmentalist have overstated some
facts to bring this issue to the public attention. Perhaps Mr. Ford is unaware
that in Alabama (his home state) there have already been surface and ground
water contamination caused by hog CAFO's. Contamination that has effected human
drinking water supplys and threatened many more. Further more, it's a pretty
good bet that Mr. Ford does not live near a hog CAFO or he would be more
concerned with Human Rights than Property Rights. I know from personal
experience, a year ago a 4,000 head hog farm was built across the road from my
home. The farmer lives two miles away. Wayne Cummins, President, Sand Mountain
Concerned Citizens Pisgah, Alabama
26 Wed June 27 2001 - 15:20:33
Name: David Brewer
Email: dpbrewer@scottsboro.org
Homepage URL:
Comments: Hi! I am a reporter for The Huntsville Times...I'd like
to some people who live in Pisgah area around Tracy Skinner's hog farm... I'm
seeking comments about this t operation for a story. I'm also looking for Wayne
Cummins if anyone knows how I can reach him. Thanks, David Brewer Office:
256-259-1042 Home: 256-259-1031 pager/voice mail: 256-219-2935 fax:
256-259-3735
27 Wed June 20 2001 - 23:53:27
Name: Wayne Cummins
Email: wcummins@hiwaay.net
Homepage URL:
Comments: June meeting of the Sand Mountain Concerned Citizens
will be on Thursday, June 28 at 7:00 in Henagar, AL. The meeting will be held
at the Restraint near the main intersection. Thursday night is still Mexican
night. Come at 6:30 and join us for Dinner before the meeting.
28 Mon June 11 2001 - 23:25:28
Name: Wayne Cummins
Email: wcummins@hiwaay.net
Homepage URL:
Comments: Skinner Farms Hog CAFO near Pleasent View was STINK'EN
today! Its gona be a long hot stink'en summer!
29 Wed May 02 2001 - 21:42:04
Name: Brenda Ivey
Email: nchandler@farmerstel.com
Homepage URL:
Comments: Hello Everyone: We have made it to another Spring and
Summer with the dreaded HOG Stench! People that don't live near these HOG
FACTORIES have no idea how thankful they should be. They have been hauling hogs
out of the facilities down below our house and they are leaving a trail of HOG
STINK on the road. The road smells like numerous rotten decaying animals. The
flies are having a field day with the contamination. The flies are everywhere.
I have never in my life been so tortured and tormented from such irresponsible
actions. People don't matter anymore it is the love of money it doesn't matter
that the people are sacrificed. What happened to compassion for your neighbors.
We have people right now in our community terminally ill with cancer and the
added torture of living their last days in such an unhealthy environment. If
they by chance have a day where they feel like they could sit outside on the
porch and enjoy the sunshine and fresh air it would be according to which way
the wind is blowing that day. There will be a payday one day!
30 Sun April 22 2001 - 02:13:28
Name: June Weldon
Email: eweldon@ farmerstel.com
Homepage URL:
Comments: Thanks to all who were at he meeting you all gave me
the bolster I needed to carry on the fight against Hog CAFOs june
31 Tue March 13 2001 - 22:41:23
Name: June Weldon
Email: eweldon@farmerstel.com
Homepage URL:
Comments: Just a note to let you know out there in the world we
are still fighting this hog war I just dread the spring as it will be so nice,
but alass I will be a prisoer in my home only alowed out when the wind blows
the hog stench another way. What is wrong with the State letting this go on
when the big boys know people are protesting all over the State AL, all over
the country.I reilize people dont count any more, just money,just fatten your
pockets you cant take it with you.Of course you know its the hog barns with
400000 hogs in Ider AL that I am refering to I just have to bow my head and
pray and let the tears flow what mental torture I and others endure God have
mercy on us all we are but slaves to the greedy few you know who you are hope
you say your prayers at night and confess your sin of being the cause of so
much heart ache JUNE
32 Wed February 28 2001 - 15:52:39
Name: Wayne Cummins
Email: wcummins@hiwaay.net
Homepage URL:
Comments: Sen. Butler and Rep. McDaniel are sponsoring House Bill
402. The down home name for this bill is the "Family Farm Preservation
Act". This bill would exempt corporate contracted mega-farms from lawsuits
based on nuisance. It would be more appropriate and honest to name this bill
the "Corporate Factory Farm Preservation Act". Independent family
farms don't worry about lawsuits. Corporate maga-farms worry about lawsuits. By
naming this bill "Family Farm" Sen. Butler and Rep. McDaniel as a
favor to ALFA have misled the public into thinking this bill is intended to
protect "Old McDonnell's Farm" which the corporations forced into
bankruptcy in the late nineteen eighties. The surviving independent farming
operations never, but never, create the massive air, water, and social
pollution that corporate Confined Animal Feeding Operations create on an
ever-increasing basis. ALFA, once the champion of the independent farmer is now
the lobbyist for corporate agribusiness and has no time for the struggling
farmer who refuses to mortgage the farm and become a sharecropper for a major
corporation. A major corporation who may have men in leadership positions in
both the corporation and ALFA. It is time for Alabama to consider how our
generous tax favors to ALFA effect both the Alabama's farming community, our
political system, and the future of Alabama. Those tax favors to ALFA were
never intended to benefit corporate stockholders of out of state corporations,
or to be used for political slight of hand, or to mislead the people of
Alabama! Wayne Cummins, President, SMCC
33 Tue February 20 2001 - 22:31:34
Name: Kitty Jones
Email: thundercanyon@farmerstel.com
Homepage URL:
Comments: A few weeks ago I flipped on the TV and the program
"To Tell the Truth" was coming on and featured the founder of
"Earth Day"...a former Senator from Wisconsin. After the questions,
etc. they talked to "young" man, now 85, and one panelist asked him,
"What do you think of George W. Bush's environmental policy?" He
replied "It stinks!". So our work is cut out for us if we want to
keep environment clean...most articles say to watch for attachments that weaken
environmental laws attached to other bills.
34 Sun February 18 2001 - 19:19:22
Name: Wayne Cummis
Email: wcummins@hiwaay.net
Homepage URL:
Comments: There is something stinking in Montgomery. But of
course you have known that for a long time. This time its Sen. Butler and Rep.
McDaniel. They are pushing a bill for ALFA that will take Alabama back a
hundred years, to a time of smelters and tanneries, steam engines and
gristmills. The bill will prevent you from bringing a lawsuit against big
landowners and corporate megafarms on the basis of nuisance. At a time when ALFA
is working hard to bring the problems of North Carolina's hog industry to
Alabama. ALFA is using near sited state legislators to block citizens, cities,
and injured businesses from being able to do anything about it when someone
parks a hundred thousand head hog farm on the edge of a town or in your back
yard. And some people wonder why Alabama needs Home Rule, a New Constitution,
Hello! Alabama embraces a state-of-the-art auto industry, it is building the
space age, and a hand full of backward thinkers who have never been any further
from home than Auburn wants to stop the clock in Alabama and make it one big
pig pen! If Sen. Butler and Rep. McDaniel would shove this stinking bill up the
nostrils of everyone in Alabama for nothing more than a pat on the back from
ALFA (and a little help at the next election campaign) what's next? I've heard
unsubstantiated rumors they are soon coming with a bill that will force you to
remove the muffler from your car and throw your garbage in the creek. The
people of the 2nd and 26th districts need to consider these men are blocking
the road to progress and should be voted in the road ditch along with their
"Stinking Bill".
35 Wed February 14 2001 - 03:31:14
Name: June Weldon
Email: eweldon@farmerstel.com
Homepage URL:
Comments: Well we sufer on , It is now effecting me mentaly, I
just think all the time about being a prisoner, and the spring will be here and
then all hell will break lose again spreading this vile pig manure all around
us to the point we gag, I just hope and pray there is some one out there that
will come to our rescue ,we need our fredom back ,what dont the people of
Alabama understand about pig stench ,and the right of people to be able to
breathe fresh air We are not the only ones in Alabama to protest this dibolical
situation of home arrest, home invasion,by these abominable stenches fom the
swine CAFOS in our community , we have yet to hear from any of our elected
officials what they intend to do to help us,the protest are growing so look out
at the polls .Anyway I just wanted to touch base and let you know I have not
given up on my part to try and get these swine out of here and get our life
back for us and our children .What a sick nasty habit spreading hog manure all
over the land ,remember to wash your vegetables they grow in hog manure and
urine,oh must not forget the flies and magots that invade our homes and
yards.Thousands of pigs in a barn is not farming its a growing factory for pigs
that stink to high heaven, put toxin in the air, and are slowly killing us
,have to go and put my mask on and feed my animals, I will be back. JUNE.
36 Tue February 13 2001 - 15:45:43
Name:
Email:
Homepage URL:
Comments:
37 Fri January 19 2001 - 03:31:27
Name: Brenda Ivey
Email: nchandler@farmerstel.com
Homepage URL:
Comments: The horrible odor of HOG STENCH is still trespassing
neighbors property and creating major problems. One neighbor told me they
actually vomited from the STENCH yesterday. I am spraying clorox disenfectant
spray to try to get rid of the odor inside our home Tuesday. We are still
killing blow flies inside our home in freezing temperatures the dread of summer
lies ahead. I would like to post a poem that a 10 year old little girl wrote
that was given to me by a guest speaker who spoke at the "Summit for
Sustainable Hog Farming" held in N.C. last Thursday. The lady told me the
poem would break your heart and it did. ACROSS THE ROAD: Across the road is no
place to play, the smell is so bad it smells everyday. Across the road is a
pool of waste, the smell stings your eyes like I have just been mace. Across
the road they pollute the creek, the smell is enough to make you sick. Across
the road they dump waste over the side, they put out their hogs after they have
died. Across the road they began to build on, the fans keep us up from dusk
till dawn. Across the road they bring grain by the load, I can no longer ride
my bike on the road. Across the road the pigs are noisy when they sell, all my
friends feel sorry for me because of the smell. By: Katie Godfrey. When I read
this poem I realized my child was not the only one suffering from irresponsible
actions created by corporations and so-called farmers. In my opinion they are
not farmers they are contract growers. One so-called farmer was quoted in the
newspaper that the people who complained their kids could not play outside were
not "True Kids". That is easy for him to say because his children do
not live near the facilities. Just because children do not want to breathe HOG
MANURE from 8,000 finishing hogs does not mean they are not "TRUE
KIDS".
38 Thu January 18 2001 - 22:29:10
Name: Wayne Cummins
Email: wcummins@hiwaay.net
Homepage URL:
Comments: Dear Concened Citizens, On January 11th myself and
several members of the Alabama environmental community attended the Water
Keeper Alliance Summit meeting in New Bern, North Carolina. This was without
question the most uplifting gathering of some of America's finest and most
outspoken supporters of a clean and healthy environment for the future of
America. Hog factories of course were the topic of the day. Thank the good Lord
we got started on the problem here in Alabama when we did. Major legal action
will soon start against the largest of these hog factories across the nation.
Some of the best legal minds in the country will be involved in this battle
which is expected to rival the tobacco law suits or the asbestos legal cases.
Robert Kennedy Jr. will lead this effort, and folks I have to say he is a
carbon copy of his father and speaks with even more passion. His last statement
in his address to the 500+ attendees was "This will be a long and difficult
task but this crusade will not stop until we reach Jerusalem". I have asked
this legal team to consider adding Alabama to their list of states that will
receive their highest priority. At this time there is no guarantee they will
consider us as they already have hundreds of problem areas to review. The
Alabama representatives made some excellent national contacts and met some
wonderful grassroots defenders of environmental justice. These contacts will
increase our information flow from other areas of the country to keep abreast
of the problem nationally. Our job now is improving the Environmental Network
here in Alabama and to get more people involved. We will be working on this
task in the coming months. Wayne Cummins President, Sand Mountain Concerned
Citizens
39 Thu January 18 2001 - 21:06:22
Name: Nat Berry
Email: natberry@yahoo.com
Homepage URL:
Comments: Hi Sand Mountain, Well, sorry about the guestbook, but
it just proves nothing is FREE! Yahoo changed theirs and I can't get the new
one to work so I got this one. Write a book; express yourself. This year is a
year to get active, speak out, and act up. Kentucky just passed a bill making
the Corporations responsible for damages created by CAFO's. I am trying to get
more info on that. Hank Graddy is a Sierran and the lawyer who successfully
fought for the bill. Hilary Hopper is the Conservation Chair of the Kentucky
Sierra Bluegrass. She is interested in hearing from you and knows Hank very
well. Her email is hlhopper@prodigy.net Send her an email and tell her about
the situation. Our Sierra has worked with them and she told me she would like
to get more involved in regional concerns. Take care. Nat
Julie Jansen - 12/02/99 03:46:28
My Email:jjansen@willmar.com
Comments:
Was this bill (HB51) just introduced or passed? Please let me know. I am and have been for 5 years fighting feedlots in Minnesota. If I can be of any help, I will try. I have alot of data on air emissions. Julie
Brenda Ivey - 12/01/99 03:22:02
My Email:nchandler@farmerstel.com
Comments:
Hello I really enjoyed seeing the Santa Claus on our web site. That was the first time I had smiled all day. The odor at my house is unreal. I thought it could not get any worse but it continues to do so. The odor is getting inside our garage with the doors d wn. I can smell the odor as soon as I walk up to the door of our house to go outside. I still cannot believe at times we are in America. We are wearing our mask outside but that still is not filtering all the smell out. We are at least giving the people o the other side of these things a break is all I can say. I talked with ADEM today they are planning to put the covers but they don't know when. I cannot beleive it is Christmas and I am no way in the Christmas spirit.I want to thank Wayne Cummins for his hard work and dedication. He does not have to do this but I know he cares. I would like to encouage everyone that see's this letter to please show up to the December 11 Health Forum I am sure there will be some very interesting facts that we can all be ed cated about. Thanks Brenda Ivey
Kirsten G. Bryant - 11/29/99 22:15:27
My URL:http://www.ALEnvironmentalCouncil.org
My Email:Watchdog@AlEnvironmentalCouncil.org
Comments:
Hi everyone! Congratulations to the Sand Mountain Concerned Citizens! I know everyone is very excited about the passage of the Jackson County bill. Many people worked very hard to ensure that this bill was passed. You all deserve a pat on the back. Senator Lowell Barr n and Representative Jon Robinson also deserve a pat on the back as well. Be sure to write a thank you note to the both of them. I'm sure they would love to hear from you. As Wayne said, the work is not over! Now it's time to get a statewide bill passed... The people of Flat Rock and Ider are still suffering daily from noxious odors and contaminated groundwater. Keep informing the governor and your federal legislators of yo r experiences so they can put a face with the problem. There are many people across the state who are thinking about you. Don't give up, hang in there. (Easy for me to say lliving in Birmingham) I hope to see everyone at the December 11th Health Forum! The Sand Mountain Concerned Citizens have organized a great forum and we will hear from some experts on the issue. We need to show up in groves to send the message that this issue is of concern to he people of ALabama! Bring your whole family and your neighbors for the occasion. See you soon and take care, Kirsten Bryant The Alabama Environmental Council
Wayne Cummins - 11/25/99 14:20:18
My Email:wcummins@hiwaay.net
Comments:
For a story on HB51 go to this address http://www.al.com/news/huntsville/Nov1999/24-e21364.html
Brenda Ivey - 11/25/99 03:59:39
My Email:nchandler@farmerstel.com
Comments:
According to Mr. Robinson the bill is final. The Governor does not have to sign but he plans to. I would like to say Thank You to everyone I contacted to call the Governor job well done. All we have to do in Ider is mention Hogs and everyone is willing to help. I hope everyone has a HAPPY THANKSGIVI G just forget the HAM! On the commical side guess what was inside our chainlink fence today? A big pot belly pig I called the law to come and get it. I could not believe what I saw when I looked outside coming up the yard with our dog. Someone had to thro it over our fence.
bryan burgess - 11/25/99 01:38:59
My Email:burgessbe@aol.com
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You guys are doing a great job. Congradulations on the new bill passed this week. We are still working the other parts of the state and will need some help from your group. See you on 12/11. Bryan Burgess
Wayne Cummins - 11/24/99 16:37:52
My Email:wcummins@hiwaay.net
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This message from David Newton, Please call the Govenors office and call as soon as possable...... Reference my message of 11/21. According to the "bill status" office in the Alabama State House, the subject bill is now (Tues. morning, 11/23) pending in Governor Siegelman's office. You can express your interest in having the Governor sign the legislation by dialing his office at 334-242-7100. The Governor's fax number is 334-242-0937. Please act quickly. Thank you. David Newton, Chair Legislative Committee Ala. Chap. of the Sierra Club PS: Again, if you want to view the text of the legislation, visit . Thanks for your interest and support. DN
Kitty Jones - 11/24/99 03:40:17
My Email:thundercanyon@farmerstel.com
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So glad that HB 51 passed..John Robinson's bill for Jackson Co....but we must not let up!! We still have much to do so keep those letters going out. Keep in touch with all representatives and senators..don't think our fight is over..contact the governor. .don't let our beautiful Alabama be ruined! We live in the most desirable rural area in the state...supposedly. And the most populated rual area in America...so lets keep it populated with people and not hogs..
Brenda Ivey - 11/24/99 01:22:13
My Email:nchandler@farmerstel.com
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I have some updated information about our wells. ADEM certified everyone with contaminated wells a request for permission to do the dye test. The dye test will start the first week in December and unless things have changed it will take 8 weeks for comple ion
Brenda Ivey - 11/24/99 01:21:46
My Email:nchandler@farmerstel.com
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I have some updated information about our wells. ADEM certified everyone with contaminated wells a request for permission to do the dye test. The dye test will start the first week in December and unless things have changed it will take 8 weeks for comple ion
Wayne Cummins - 11/24/99 00:44:08
My Email:wcummins@hiwaay.net
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HB51 "PASSED" in the Alabama Senate Monday with no opposition. For the Sand Mountain Concerned Citizens this was a GRAND SLAM in the top of the sixth. Senator Barron, Rep. Robinson, and Rep. Hall should be commended for their courage and determination t work for the people of their districts and refuse to give in to the corporate pressures. Our work is far from over. SMCC has already begun driving hard into Dekalb County. Dekalb County is the location of some of the most problem hog farms in the stat . Elected Officials will be encouraged to take the bold and honorable action of introducing legislation similar to Jackson County's. It's now time to enjoy this Thanksgiving holiday after which we will continue or effort to preserve our way of life on S nd Mountain. Wayne Cummins President, Sand Mountain Concerned Citizens
Wayne Cummins - 11/21/99 23:48:47
My Email:wcummins@hiwaay.net
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UPDATE on SMCC! It looks as if HB51 will pass in the Alabama State Senate. ALFA has tried there best and has failed to kill this bill. Monday morning Senator Barron will take this bill to the Senate floor for vote. At this point there is little we can do to assist his efforts. Horizon Bank of Fiffe, Alabama is funding Skinner Farms construction of a Large Corporate Hog Farm in the Pleasant View Community. Horizon Bank is being contacted so that they will consider their position in funding an operation which can cause estruction of our rural community.
june - 11/19/99 23:13:49
My Email:eweldon@farmerstel.com
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I think you will find there more than 1600 pigs at the farms on County RD 141 more like 8 thousand acording to a freind no names as we all know the pay back can be a disaster. j
Wayne Cummins - 11/19/99 23:02:01
My Email:wcummins@hiwaay.net
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The HB51 has passed the Alabama house, but is stuck in the Senate in the Rules committee- ALFA has lobbied against it and wants any county environmental legislation viewed as a state wide bill. They are trying to create a rule change. AlaLEAVs is trying to get Concerned Citizens of Sand Mountain to create a flood of emails, faxes and phone calls to Steve Windom (he sent the bill to the rules committee) and to support the local representatives. Please circulate this information to your membership and encourage active participation now! We need to have a tremendous response when they arrive for Senate session on Monday. The information you need is: Steve Windom swindom@ltgov.state.al.us (334) 242-7900 242-4661 (fax) Lowell Barron (334) 242-7858 John Robinson (334) 242-7728 Albert Hall (334) 242-7727 All the Jackson County legislators have supported the bill, but need your support.
Brenda Ivey - 11/18/99 18:04:59
My Email:nchandler@farmerstel.com
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Everyone please look into the website www.earthshare.org type a letter and they will send you some awesome information on these corporate factories. It's information I have never seen before It is very encouraging Thanks Brenda
Brenda Ivey - 11/17/99 17:25:44
My Email:nchandler@farmerstel.com
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I have contacted another organization about our problem I suggest you do too. Earthshare www.earthshare.org Mailing Address is Earthshare 3400 International Drive NW,Suite 2k Washington,D.C. 20008. While I am here they have now started pumping waste from arty's pond. GOD BLESS the one's who will be getting the poop next. Thanks Brenda
Brenda Ivey - 11/17/99 16:44:52
My Email:nchandler@farmerstel.com
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In response to Mrs. Jones question send any information you have to the Public Health Department maybe sooner or later they will get educated on this issue. The odor at our house would gagg a maggit on a gut wagon. Our air smells stagnatted, but I do not onder why. I videoed 3 hours the other day when they were spreading that crap and my face burned like fire after I finished. I had to wash it off. I imagine it was the ammonia. I contacted ADEM by phone Monday and they was suppose to return my call. This s Wednesday and I am still waiting. I am still waiting on a call from EPA; also. I am pleased of all the newspapers who have been contacted inviting people to the Forum in Dec. keep up the good work Wayne. Thanks Brenda Ivey
Wayne Cummins - 11/16/99 02:20:18
My Email:wcummins@hiwaay.net
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Update on SMCC On November 24 advertisements will began in four regional newspapers for our DEC. 11, Public Health Forum in Rainsville. Our WEB Site is now being advertised in Jackson and Dekalb Counties. Montgomery and Birmingham News Papers are being offered charter air service to cover the Public Health Forum in DEC. Alabama Department of Environmental Management has been engaged in a request for “Public Hearing” of Wootten Farms to challenge a request for CAFO permit. Our letters to the rural areas from Henagar to Fyffe have been successful. Mail in petitions are still being received. Good Job Folks!
Nat Berry - 11/15/99 20:53:45
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The next time they're spreading the hog doo call Channel 31. Get somebody out there to video it and smell it. They may be in ADEM compliance but that needs to be changed.
Kitty & Jay Jones - 11/15/99 03:48:55
My Email:thundercanyon@farmerstel.com,
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On 11-3-99 received letter from Donald E. Williamson, MD, State Health Officer with State of AL Dept. of Public Health and quote: "Since the large concentrated livestock units are relatively new, we are also keenly interested in what environmental impact and public health implications, if any, may emerge." Unquote. Should we send him articles from 1996 U. S. News and World Report, "George", "Time Magazine. ? Do we need a better informed public health officer?
June Weldon - 11/14/99 22:14:47
My Email:eweldon@farmersstel.com
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Last coments were by june ,dont know why my e mail address did not show
- 11/14/99 22:09:07
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Hang in there MS Ivy, I and others know your pain I have E mailed ADEM twice on this matter of running at night Any one out there ? help us, People before pigs Dont eat any thing with a face Is Amerca becoming a 3RD world country ADEM reply THAT THE RAINSVILLE NRCS HAVE BEEN TO THE TWO FACILITIES NO COMENT ON WHAT THAY FOUND OR DID .INSPECTORS HAVE BEEN OBSERVINGTHE FARMERS AS THAY SPREAD THE HOG WASTE AND IT WAS DONE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CAFO RULES That brings me to ask why are pe ple told to back off if thay want to watch ?
Brenda Ivey - 11/11/99 05:35:41
My Email:nchandler@farmerstel.com
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I am sitting here about ready to stroke out they are spreading the hog poop behind our house and it is now 11:31 P.M. I have almost taken a whole roll of film and I have never taken pictures in the dark before but I will continue all night long if they co tinue to sread all night. I needed to release stress and everyone is in the bed so I will talk to you over the computer. Thanks Brenda Ivey
J weldon - 11/10/99 21:54:17
My Email:eweldon@farmerstel.com
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I dont think the lagoons or cesspools are in operation at the hog farm on county rd 141 ,is this a violation, allso was informed of dumping instead of spraying, is this allso a violation, I have E mailed ADEM no reply Who can investgate this ? june.NOV 10 h 1999
Brenda IveyI - 11/10/99 18:59:33
My Email:nchandler@farmerstel.com
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I spoke with Sonja Massey with the groundwater branch at ADEM this morning after a resident who had their well tested called me and said their water was very milky this morning which this has never been present before and Sonja told me the dye test would e done around the first of December and would take approximately 8 weeks.I've also contacted Dave Olsen with EPA and I am still waiting on his call. I told Sonja the people up here have lost all confidents with ADEM. Thanks Brenda Ivey
- 11/08/99 02:00:27
My Email:nchandler@farmerstel.com
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I appreciate Mr. Wayne Cummins for taking a stand and trying to help Sand Mountain in their fight against hog operations. Keep up the great work and if I can be any assistance please don't hesitate to ask. Thanks Brenda Ivey
Elmer-June - 11/07/99 22:51:55
My Email:eweldon@farmerstel.com
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Thank you for all your hard work I will inform all my freinds near and far. June
David Burch - 11/01/99 07:08:19
My Email:fr234@webtv.net
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Hello, this is Fran ( David's wife ) I have not seen David so involved in any type of Citizen action. But he attended your meeting here in Rainsville. He is getting signature's and making our friend's and neighbor's aware of this hog business and the way hat they think that we will roll over. NOT He spoke so highly of you and your presentation :) Not an everyday thing for him :) But I wanted to let you know that you are not alone on this issue. We have wrote our official's and are being very vocal to folk s. So let's keep on keeping on ok? Thank you for your time. David and Fran Burch
Opinions and Views of the CAFO Hog Problems
Let me start my comments with the definition of 3 words.
Corporation – A group of persons united in a trade guild; any group or persons that act as one.
Manufacturing – to make by hand or by machine.
Farming – the business of raising crops or animals on a farm; agriculture.
A comment in a message to SMCC referenced a previous comment about Sand Mountain being a low education area. I don’t understand the connection to the Hog Stench. I can name people who graduated from Ider High School and are highly favored leaders in our work force today. To name a few, one is a big time lawyer, one is a very prominent doctor, and one is president of a large electric corporation. I could go on, but don’t think that necessary at this time.
Corporate hog supporters say the solution is to move, but that is easier for people to say who are not bothered with the problem, than it is for those who are. Also, the home was in place before the hog farm. I wonder just what is the location of the hog supporters in proximity to these hog buildings and holding tanks. Perhaps they would up root their families and move if a hog farm was to be constructed within ½ mile from their homes. Maybe the hog farmers would like to see if land is available near those who support them. Or maybe, these supporters would like to take their families on a camping trip near a corporate hog farm.
My daughter, son-in-law and 3 children live within 300 yards of one of these corporate hog farms. Two of the children have asthma, and one was born with a chronic lung disease. These problems have gotten worse since the construction of these farms. Other problems have developed in other family members as well. You say you can’t prove it as a direct result of these farms. True—not yet. It is like a lot of other situations, it takes years and many large medical bills and sometimes, even death.
One of the first things a doctor asks is: Is there anything you are using, eating, or changing in your home? Unfortunately in too many cases the mention of a newly constructed hog farm would be dismissed as a probable cause, even though this may be the only change that has taken place. However time will tell.
I agree we should have the freedom to make a living the best way we can, but it would be nice to at least consider, if not consult with those who would be directly affected by the farms. Did these hog farmers living come to a halt before the existence of hog farms, or did they see an easier way to make $$$? People who used to be neighbors and friends are fast becoming enemies. Times are definitely changing when people are no longer concerned for others, but think only of themselves and what brings them temporary happiness. The Bible says the love of money is the root of all evil. 1 Tim. 6:10.
No one is asking these corporate hog farmers to quit making a living in the manner they are accustomed. Concerned citizens are only asking for the air to be made cleaner and healthier as a result of this type of corporate farming. After all, large manufacturing plants have had to spend millions of dollars to add filters, etc. to help keep the air cleaner, so why should this be any different? We could accomplish a lot more if everyone would work together with ADEM to find a solution to this problem.
Hog farming as I remember it was 50-100 hogs running loose in a pasture on 10 or more acres of land, not 2000 or more hogs in large buildings on approximately 1 acre of land. I don’t remember smelling those hog farms like I do these. Seems to me this is more like manufacturing than farming, and I never heard of this type of hog farming until the last few years. I am 53 and have lived on Sand Mountain all my life.
Poultry Business has been here for years and I never heard complaints about that until recently, and the negative comments I have been hearing are coming from the poultry farmers, hog farmers and their supporters. First of all there is no comparison as to the odor/air pollution. Personally I feel this is a scare tactic used by the corporate hog farmers to enlist the support of poultry farmers.
Finally, I pray these corporate hog farmers can find a way to make a living of their standards that will not negatively affect the lives of many others. If that is in corporate hog farming with filters or whatever it takes to remedy the problem, then we can all once again get back to the good friends, neighbors, and life style we can all be happy with.
Iris Bass
Sand Mountain has been chosen as the home of Large Corporate Hog Farms as they are being driven out of other states. Corporations look to Sand Mountain as a safe haven for this problemed industry. The Sand Mountain Concerned Citizens will no longer watch silently while larger and larger hog operations, which destroy the quality of life for miles around, are built on Sand Mountain. Life near Ider, Alabama has been devastated by two Wootten Farm 4000 head hog operations contracted by the Gold Kist Corp. Walnut Creek Farms, near Collinsville has made life miserable for its neighbors and polluted the ground water and streams for years. Skinner Farm of Pisgah is building a 4000 head top hog operation near the bluffs overlooking the Tennessee River, and near the Pisgah Gorge. The three-acre waste cesspool for this operation is built of the edge of a sinkhole and evidence suggests it is built over caverns or crevasse in the bedrock. The Gold Kist Corp. will also contract this facility.
A civil war is erupting in rural America. The battlefields are courtrooms and state governments, meeting halls and news media. This is a most unlikely conflict from an historical perspective. The American Farmer, a man who has been revered as honest, hard working, wise in the ways of sound economics and resourcefulness, is falling from grace.
In the nineteen eighties many farmers forgot their father’s lesson, “Never let a banker on your land.” Many did; many lost their land. In the nineteen nineties, faced with relentless corporate competition, many farmers forgot their independence and said “if you can’t beat ’em join ‘em”. When corporate farming methods clash with traditional rural tolerance, corporate hog farmers search for justification of their corporate alignment. Most corporate hog farmers cast the blame for conflicts on average rural families rather than accepting responsibility themselves or blaming the corporation, which has been embraced in greed or desperation. The Norman Rockwell image is being tarnished.
Corporate hog farming is hurting agriculture as much as it is rural America. Over the last ten years a shift from many small independent hog farms to fewer yet much larger corporate hog farms has created many problems in rural America. These problems include the stench emanating from football-field-size waste lagoons, contaminated water sources, neighbor versus neighbor animosity and a general deterioration of the quality of life within several miles of a facility. Problems have gotten so bad in many states that legislatures have had to place controls on the industry. Jackson County was the first to pursue such controls in Alabama. Many large national corporations, which contract with local farmers, have been able to remain unscathed, as the fabric of rural America is being ripped apart. If a statewide moratorium is necessary to put the brakes on this industry in Alabama, let’s waste no time.
Wayne Cummins is the President of the Sand Mountain Concerned Citizens
In recent years, many St. Clair County citizens have felt the effects of concentrated hog growing operations, waste dumps, or quarrying and mining operations. What often happens when these types of businesses operate in your community?
Research, along with the experience of individuals living in St. Clair County, shows that these businesses have the potential to damage their neighbors’ health and the environment by contaminating the air and water, and by lowering property values or limiting their growth.
For these reasons, many County residents have joined together to fight such businesses when they harm or threaten to harm nearby communities. Court orders shut down the grease and lead operations near Mt. Moriah and Leeds. Moody neighbors are attacking the garbage facilities. Springville and Moody citizens are fighting the quarries, and Ashville families are suing hog facilities.
Our family farm is downwind and downstream from a massive hog-raising factory. Going outside in the morning or evening often means getting the hog stench in our lungs and clothes, where it clings for long periods. When we sweat and lick our lips, we can taste the stench. We cannot raise the windows for fear of the stench getting into our house, carpets, drapes, and bedding. We cannot open the doors without letting in large numbers of flies that follow the stench. We fear the contamination carried by these flies from the hog sewage. We do not plan afternoon activities outside because of the potential stench. We quit working our farm early and late in the day because of potential health problems from the hog sewage gases hovering near the ground. Our vehicles are invaded with stench and flies. A physician told us not to let our grandchildren swim in the creek after water tests revealed high levels of e-coli. We fear the negative impact on our property value.
Our personal experience is limited to the effects of living near a massive hog operation, but attendance at community meetings reveals that many citizens have equally serious problems with the other types of businesses.
Some owners of these businesses say they are good stewards of the land for they need to make a living from it. This is good, but not good enough. They must also be good stewards of the air and water that flow across their land, for these do not belong to them.
It doesn’t matter if you live in or outside the city limits, if one of these businesses wants to locate in your community, our courts can provide remedies whenever they businesses threaten to operate as a nuisance or operate in a manner that threatens human health, pollutes the air or the water, or damages neighboring property.
Bryan and Leslie Burgess,, Ashville, AL
Good luck with the hog factory farm that is building near your home. The one behind my home has been in operation for 5 years and it still stinks. When it was built Murphy Farms told me not to worry because that lagoon would cure out and it wouldn't smell. When I asked how long that would take they couldn't answer me. Last night I was sitting at my computer about 11pm when my nose perked up. That stench was in my house. I don't know how much more of this I can take. The hog grower lives about 15 miles away in a nice little resort community. He had said at the beginning that he would build his home at the hog operation but lo and behold I guess he didn't want to stink up his own home.
I sincerely hope that you will not face the same problems that my neighbors and I have. I have one neighbor that was in perfect health until he sprayed the first time. Then she became sick. She rocks back and forth. She has been to Duke University Hospital, Chapel Hill Hospital, Emory University just to name a few. She has had every test known to man. More doctors than she can count and no one knows what is wrong with her. She is certain that it has something to do with the hog farm.
In North Carolina human beings don't count. Pigs come first.
Karen Priest